ART + COMMERCE (Read time 0:43)
Entrepreneurs are artists, and artists are entrepreneurs. Artists need to express their art, entrepreneurs need to exploit their art. Problem is, Art is always on the battlefield with Commerce:
Art wants nothing more than to be expressed.
To the artist, Commerce is the audacious mercenary of Art.
I think Art & Commerce really want the same thing: to be respected and paid. So why do they always end up on the battlefield?
"When artists get together, they talk about money. When entrepreneurs get together they talk about art." —Oscar Wilde
|Posted By Paula Maya|
| ART + COMMERCE |
I loved that quote you posted by Oscar Wilde. Sooo true!
|Posted By mark grove|
| Art Versus Commerce? |
Well, most artists will never make a dime because they aren't willing to to become marketers of their art. if you don't want to be a starving artist forever, at least pay a well known seller to market your art, whatever it is. I sometimes tell writers who've never made a dime to give a reputable agent or salesperson 80%. They scoff at this saying they, the artist should get 90%. I beg to differ. if you've never made a dime give them that 80% and if you continue to make cash through them, dwindle that percentage down to about 60 or 50%. I'll bet no one is with me on this. I had to do that even though every fiber of my being cried out no!!! If you don't want to do this, market it yourself. You won't will you?
|Posted By john stebila|
| art + commerce |
Art enriches the artist .Commerce enriches the artist.Art enriches the purchaser,the purchaser enriches the artist.
|Posted By Jake Kot|
| Extend Your Creativity |
Great post to get people thinking. As mentioned in one of the comments, we're both artists AND entrepreneurs. I believe the healthiest move an artist can make in this seemingly inevitable clash with commerce is to strive to bring the same imaginative and creative strengths and abilities one brings to their art, and apply them to their entrepreneurial endeavors as well. What might you CREATIVELY come up with in terms of dealing with that marriage with commerce? What would happen if you extended that creative gift you already own to the business of art? I'm reminded of the words of Tim Ferris; reality is negotiable, and rules can be bent or broken. And by the way, what rules, written when, by whom...just a thought.
I Agree. Wherever you go to create a song or invent an idea that's the same place you go to create solutions to any other challenges. —Michael
|Posted By joe|
| profound |
Hey this is tight! you and Oscar sure got it right! Perhaps this universal struggle is known to us but expressed in this manner, in these words is truly, beautifully profound.. thank you Michael :-)
Me and Oscar! I like that:-) —Michael
|Posted By rockerchic|
| Respect? Commerce? |
Art wants respect and to be paid. Commerce want to be paid. 'If' reputation can be branded and used as a successful marketing tool, re$pect has its place. However, the value of respect as a virtue, is irrelevant to commerce. We see it dismissed for profit all the time. This includes respect for oneself and respect for the artist. Hence, the problem.
You make a good a point! —Michael
|Posted By Rachel|
| We still remember Oscar Wilde... |
Well Michael, I had to think about this..When commerce and art can meet it is a beautiful union. "Let's get together and be all right.." An artist is creating...something new...all the time...this is good. Ideas.. Yes, artists want to be valued..even..paid, but an artist that sells their soul to commerce is no longer alive and free but a slave to something they don't really live for. What good is that for either side. The artist gets destroyed, and commerce makes no more money...it's a 15 minute deal. Claude Monet, was able to keep his integrity, even when no one believed in his art, and also, live a good life, to a ripe ol age, creating...the thing, he loved to do most. :-)
I love the Claude Monet reference. Here's a video of Monet at work. —Michael
|Posted By Ray Korona|
| art + commerce--why the battlefield |
I think the reason art and commerce are so often at war goes far beyond a timid artist or bad art. Great art often is not in step with compelling trends in the marketplace that are easy to run with and hard to buck. So as president of Columbia Records, Clive Davis fired Duke Ellington after 22 years on the label. Their verbal exchange at the time remains instructive. Davis: "We can't keep you here. You don't sell records." Ellington: "It is our job to make records. It is your job to sell them." Similarly, after twenty albums, Elcktra president Bob Krasnow fired Judy Collins telling her she's "not the company's kind of artist anymore" as the label committed more funds to bands such as Motley Cure and Metal Church.
That may not happen in todays industry because Duke and Judy could have much more control and ownership of their own work. —Michael
|Posted By Nancy Nevins|
| art vs commerce |
I resent commerce as a dictator. Art doesn't do that to commerce. Why is business so exacting? I think business ruins authenticity and spontaneity; other than that, everything's fine . . . .
Fortunately we're no longer beholden to Commerce as a dictator. We've got access to the entire world right in the palm of our hands! —Michael
|Posted By E P Drakoulias|
| Great! But... |
Love the post and especially the Oscar Wilde quote, but unfortunately, in our times, bad art can sell, really well, with good marketing.
On the other hand, todays "viral" marketing makes Bad Art very transparent. —Michael
|Posted By Roy Maffezzoli|
| Great |
Brilliant post Michael! I've always known very well that we are both artists AND enterpreneurs, but untill now I've always thought that whenever I had to take a decision one of the two sides was going to suffer by either losing money or credibility. But now my point of view has changed. Thank you! ;)
Yes! The new direction that technology is leading us is: "it's gotta work for everyone...with no one left out!" —Michael
|Posted By CashisKling|
| Math |
As an art student in drawing class I was trained to define an object in its surroundings. Then one day my professor came in and said that's only half the equation - now we're going to learn to draw an object by allowing it's surroundings to define it - an "ah-ha" moment pulling me back into high school algebra. Later, while earning my MBA studying economics, I learned the objective of maximum profit is defined as the intersection where marginal cost equals marginal revenue - an "ah-ha" moment pulling me back into undergrad drawing class. Art + Commerce has to equal something. Maybe Value, or perhaps Profit? Regardless, Art + Commerce is an unbalanced equation. Balance it. Math and art work.
I must have ditched algebra class that day! Math & Art. Left brain, right brain dancing together! I like it!—Michael
|Posted By John Tighe|
| Profit speaks louder! |
This is brilliant. It describes perfectly the relationship between the two. I think Commerce admires Art, believes In Art, but Profit sometimes speaks in a louder voice.
|Posted By Michelle Wynn|
| Sell it! |
As an artist, I do want my art to be appreciated and acknowledged (bought). I guess I only resent Commerce when it wants me to change my art to sell more.